Tsunami
Go back to yesterday's show by Browse Recent Shows, Jan. 3. Then there are two paragraphs of type, then Aguswandi, Allen Nairn, underneath are the links to the grassroots organizations. If you listen to today's show too you will hear Indonesians begging you not to give money that gets funnelled through the corrupt and oppressive military.
Thanks for that additional information, Lightning. I'll try again, and will try to listen to the show, too. Yes ~ the corrupt and oppressive military seems to be a major issue there, from what I'm hearing. Additional tragedy, where it's already unbearable.
That's excellent news, Jarkko. The generousity of the people seems to outweigh that of the governments.
That's excellent news, Jarkko. The generousity of the people seems to outweigh that of the governments.
Danilo Perovic (36), from Nis in Serbia, sued local TV station because of "inaccurate reporting". Namely, on the day of tsunami the station during the breaking news talked with scientist from state institute for seismology who said that "the catastrophe can be prevented if the services and authorities react quickly and evacuate inhabitants". He claims that they told tsunami is over Serbia and jumped from his window from second floor of the building, breaking both his legs and chine. At least he understanded the talk with the scientist so 
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From Reuters....
PORT BLAIR: One of the world's last remaining Stone Age hunter-gatherer tribes survived the tsunami but the damage caused to their habitat may eventually wipe them out, experts said.
The Onge tribe on Andaman and Nicobar Islands could run out of food - mostly marine species - as their inland estuaries have been flooded by sea water and coastal mangroves destroyed, they said.
Although authorities say that the most primitive tribal groups on the islands are safe after the tsunami struck, there has been no word on the fate of nearly 25 Onges, a quarter of the tribe's total population.
"While a majority of the tribes are physically safe, we believe a tribe like the Onge is in grave danger as their habitat may have been badly affected," said Samir Acharya, secretary of the Society for Andaman and Nicobar Ecology.
The Andaman and Nicobar Islands are home to about six tribes of Mongoloid and Negrito origin for thousands of years.
Many of these tribal people are hunter-gatherers who arm themselves with spears, bows and arrows, dress in tree bark or leaves and shun links with the outside world.
Experts had feared that some of these tribes could have been wiped out after the killer waves smashed into the remote archipelago.
While the largest tribe, the Nicobarese, has a population of more than 20,000, more primitive groups like the Sentinelese, Shompen and Jarawa number only a few dozen or a few hundred.
The Onges are a Negrito tribe whose numbers have dwindled to about 100 people from an estimated 600 in 1901.
Many tribal people fled deep into the jungles after the tsunami and have been too scared to emerge since, authorities said, adding that they were believed to be surviving on coconuts, bananas and wild berries.
Indian authorities have so far provided little relief to the most primitive tribal groups, partly because of concerns about intruding into their highly protected existence.
"We still do not have any information whatsoever about 20-25 Onges who had settled on South Bay in Little Andaman, which is roughly a fourth of their total population," said a senior Indian anthropologist.
"And the rest who had been evacuated from their Dugong Creek settlement to higher ground have been living among settlers for a week now, which is very worrying as they have reportedly begun getting used to alcohol and tobacco."
PORT BLAIR: One of the world's last remaining Stone Age hunter-gatherer tribes survived the tsunami but the damage caused to their habitat may eventually wipe them out, experts said.
The Onge tribe on Andaman and Nicobar Islands could run out of food - mostly marine species - as their inland estuaries have been flooded by sea water and coastal mangroves destroyed, they said.
Although authorities say that the most primitive tribal groups on the islands are safe after the tsunami struck, there has been no word on the fate of nearly 25 Onges, a quarter of the tribe's total population.
"While a majority of the tribes are physically safe, we believe a tribe like the Onge is in grave danger as their habitat may have been badly affected," said Samir Acharya, secretary of the Society for Andaman and Nicobar Ecology.
The Andaman and Nicobar Islands are home to about six tribes of Mongoloid and Negrito origin for thousands of years.
Many of these tribal people are hunter-gatherers who arm themselves with spears, bows and arrows, dress in tree bark or leaves and shun links with the outside world.
Experts had feared that some of these tribes could have been wiped out after the killer waves smashed into the remote archipelago.
While the largest tribe, the Nicobarese, has a population of more than 20,000, more primitive groups like the Sentinelese, Shompen and Jarawa number only a few dozen or a few hundred.
The Onges are a Negrito tribe whose numbers have dwindled to about 100 people from an estimated 600 in 1901.
Many tribal people fled deep into the jungles after the tsunami and have been too scared to emerge since, authorities said, adding that they were believed to be surviving on coconuts, bananas and wild berries.
Indian authorities have so far provided little relief to the most primitive tribal groups, partly because of concerns about intruding into their highly protected existence.
"We still do not have any information whatsoever about 20-25 Onges who had settled on South Bay in Little Andaman, which is roughly a fourth of their total population," said a senior Indian anthropologist.
"And the rest who had been evacuated from their Dugong Creek settlement to higher ground have been living among settlers for a week now, which is very worrying as they have reportedly begun getting used to alcohol and tobacco."
In the first place, large-scale evacuation of that many people would have been impossible in the brief hours preceding the Tsunami striking. The poor man who leapt from the 2nd-story window would have plunged directly into the waves had the Tsunami actually struck there. Any inaccuracies of reporting on such a thing only adds to the tragedy. How very sad.
I've been listening, Kush, to reports on the tribes talked about here. Apparently, some are so antagonistic to outsiders that helping them remains a quandary. However, it seems that under these circumstances, things could be different in that regard. At least dropping food consistent with their diets, from helicopters, would seem better than nothing. I hope the 25 missing will be found. Populations like this are so vulnerable under the best of circumstances.
I've been listening, Kush, to reports on the tribes talked about here. Apparently, some are so antagonistic to outsiders that helping them remains a quandary. However, it seems that under these circumstances, things could be different in that regard. At least dropping food consistent with their diets, from helicopters, would seem better than nothing. I hope the 25 missing will be found. Populations like this are so vulnerable under the best of circumstances.
I am going to stop reading the papers soon there is now talk of paedophiles rounding up lost children and selling them on and a little Swedish boy is also believed taken by paedophiles. The more I read the worse things get.
Mayani flew back from Sri Lanka today she and her immediate family are well she lost some Sri Lankan relatives. She said the help received by the people while she was there was imperative and she is now planning a way of raising even more funds when she goes back to school.
Mayani flew back from Sri Lanka today she and her immediate family are well she lost some Sri Lankan relatives. She said the help received by the people while she was there was imperative and she is now planning a way of raising even more funds when she goes back to school.
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Who ever Mayani is I'm glad that she is well.
Human beings are capable of the worst or the best, Paula. No news to know, I guess, and no news to anybody. While some are seing the glass half empty, others are seing it half full, and others are more realistic. The real fact here, is that it is what you are doing that count (not what you are thinking or saying about the situation). So if we want to make it better, just do something at your measure and do it now.
Because :
Unfortunalely the stunamis were almost "nothing" in comparaison of the many epidemics that will occur in large number if not enough help is given QUICKLY. Please react and do not think that a little help would not be enough. It will.
Human beings are capable of the worst or the best, Paula. No news to know, I guess, and no news to anybody. While some are seing the glass half empty, others are seing it half full, and others are more realistic. The real fact here, is that it is what you are doing that count (not what you are thinking or saying about the situation). So if we want to make it better, just do something at your measure and do it now.
Because :
Unfortunalely the stunamis were almost "nothing" in comparaison of the many epidemics that will occur in large number if not enough help is given QUICKLY. Please react and do not think that a little help would not be enough. It will.
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Beautiful Losers
"He can love the shape of human beings, the fine and twisted shapes of the heart. It is good to have among us such men, such balancing monsters of love."
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Beautiful Losers
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P.S. : If I do no reacting with horror (ans simingly without compassion) about the "news" you bring, Paula (I did not intend to be rude with you either) it is because prostitution or children is an industry in many poor (and not so poor) countries.
I posted a message on that subject here about one year ago. No echoes of any kind came back. Like if I had made up the problem or... over reacted about this. If this catastroph could make some people aware of the situation, if it could open the eyes of people that otherwise would not have been counscious of this reality, well... this hurt for sure, but it is be better to endure the pain of cooping with the reality and do something againts this child abuse, instead of enduring this.... thing just to avoid to face unpleasant sides of the life or human nature. End of the lecture.
Here another link if necessary, altough information for help is everywhere :
http://www.care.ca/
Yes, they are involved now in Asia regarding tsunami&consequences
I posted a message on that subject here about one year ago. No echoes of any kind came back. Like if I had made up the problem or... over reacted about this. If this catastroph could make some people aware of the situation, if it could open the eyes of people that otherwise would not have been counscious of this reality, well... this hurt for sure, but it is be better to endure the pain of cooping with the reality and do something againts this child abuse, instead of enduring this.... thing just to avoid to face unpleasant sides of the life or human nature. End of the lecture.
Here another link if necessary, altough information for help is everywhere :
http://www.care.ca/
Yes, they are involved now in Asia regarding tsunami&consequences
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"He can love the shape of human beings, the fine and twisted shapes of the heart. It is good to have among us such men, such balancing monsters of love."
Leonard Cohen
Beautiful Losers
"He can love the shape of human beings, the fine and twisted shapes of the heart. It is good to have among us such men, such balancing monsters of love."
Leonard Cohen
Beautiful Losers
As you know, because I expressed it to you privately, I'm very relieved in hearing that Mayani and her immediate family survived this disaster. I feel very badly that some of her Sri Lankan relatives didn't. I'm heartened to know that she is continuing to move on behalf of those still there. You're right about the child prostitution, and I believe prostitution period, for which people are being abducted. It is tragedy on top of tragedy on top of tragedy. As Tchocolatl and Laurie have suggested, the epidemics are only just beginning. Unfortunately, they will come in all forms. Yes, contributing anything is better than nothing. It all will add up to much.
Paula I think that little Swedish boy was fund and reunited with his Dad. Unfortunately for others that's not the case. It is horrific, and as Tchoco has said this is a practice which goes on all the time. All that this disaster has done is to open up a few more doors and create more targets for predators. Illegal adoptions (for $$$) are also rife as are bogus collections for charity. However, we must do our research and not give up the basic urge to do good if we can, and try to assign that responsibility, or cash, food clothing to thos who check out when investigated. As Tchoco and others have said every little bit is going to help. It's probably a good idea to give up on mass media though I agree
Our colleagues are in Darwin ready to go over, and some have returned saying they couldn't cope in the field. Many of those affected by the tsunami will be living in refugee camps for a year or more. Many of the victims are angry and aid workers will be the obvious target. I'd be angry too.
I agreeOur colleagues are in Darwin ready to go over, and some have returned saying they couldn't cope in the field. Many of those affected by the tsunami will be living in refugee camps for a year or more. Many of the victims are angry and aid workers will be the obvious target. I'd be angry too.
Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.
Buddha
Buddha
My understanding from the news reports I've heard is that the two, Swedish boys are, in fact, different ones. One was reunited with his father, and the mother was actually found alive approximately 24 hours later, much further inland carried there by the waves. There were so many Swedish people vacationing there that there could easily be two, separate boys in question. Please let us know if you find out for sure, one way or the other, and so will I.
Yes, Insanitor, anger will be rampant everywhere, very soon. I hope that if you end up going that you'll be able to stay. I wouldn't be surprized if it was too much, even so. I can't imagine trying to deal with it all, directly, one-on-one, one-on-thousands.
~ Elizabeth
Yes, Insanitor, anger will be rampant everywhere, very soon. I hope that if you end up going that you'll be able to stay. I wouldn't be surprized if it was too much, even so. I can't imagine trying to deal with it all, directly, one-on-one, one-on-thousands.
~ Elizabeth
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/1 ... en.boy.ap/
this was one lost boy reunited. I wish I could say the same for more.
this was one lost boy reunited. I wish I could say the same for more.
Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.
Buddha
Buddha