how did you get into leonard cohen?

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Re: how did you get into leonard cohen?

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philo wrote:curious to know how some of you got into his words and music.......
Glarpppp....
It wasn't until as late as Natural Born Killers for me.
Not only did that flick get me into LC, but also The Cowboy Junkies.
LC is a far better writer than Michael Timmins; as far as voices go, I think that hands down Margo Timmins is the most perfect out there (she may well be, in my opinion, the single best reason to buy a vacuum tube amp & preamp) but perhaps comparing male & female vocalists is apples vs oranges (or "wmds" vs "regime change" as the case may be) and preference is in the ear of the beholder. It should be noted that although LC can write circles around Michael Timmins, the latter is absolutely no slouch as an arranger. It seems to me that The CJ must have covered LC somewhere down the line, but for the life of me I can't remember what. I know some people who say they cannot stomach LC's voice, but I was always blown away by it.

Yup, Natural Born Killers had a significant impact upon my future listening sessions & the title gave me ideas for future foreign policy.
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Someone on the site I visit most had a verse from Everybody Knows as his sig.
That was the bait - I knew instantly that I wanted to know more about the writer. So I went out and bought The Essential Leonard Cohen, without ever hearing him sing a note.

I was hooked as soon as I heard the first verse on the first track.

Amazing voice, brilliant words.
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Only just found this video of LC:
http://ca.youtube.com/user/leonardcohen?ob=4" target="_blank

This one does make me cry.
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Post by Paula »

Evelyne - I did the same as your parents I brought my kids up listening to Leonard they can spot a Cohen song at 20 paces!
Diane

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I'm not sure whether I've told this story before on here or not, but here's how I was hooked.

I don't recall the first time I heard Leonard, it could have been the words, "It's four in the morning, the end of December..." coming from the radio. But I was struck by his uniqueness, the depth of his words, his voice, by the time I was 21, and got tickets to go see him at the Hammersmith Odeon in 1985. I was seeing a married man at the time (Yikes) and at the last minute he couldn't get away so I went on my own. I sold my spare ticket to a tout outside the tube station. (Nobody bought it because the seat next to me remained empty throughout the concert. )

A man in black came onto the stage with his black guitar and I was immensely impressed by his charisma, his warm and engaging manner, and his singing. I don't remember much about the concert, other than my abiding impression of how special a man he was. 21 years later, here I am talking to people who know the same thing 8) .

Diane
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. . . perhaps comparing male & female vocalists is apples vs oranges (or "wmds" vs "regime change" as the case may be) and preference is in the ear of the beholder . . . Yup, Natural Born Killers had a significant impact upon my future listening sessions & the title gave me ideas for future foreign policy.

These lines were very humourous for me :lol: ... in a perverse sort of way, of course.


~ Lizzy
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Great image, Diane, of Leonard coming onstage. Twenty-one and 21 years later. Perfect timing for arriving here.

Too bad the hawker didn't use the ticket himself. I wonder if he's come to regret that he didn't.
Amazing voice, brilliant words.
Succinctly and well said, Fljotsdale 8) .
. . . they can spot a Cohen song at 20 paces!
. . . and one of them walked more than 20 paces to Leonard's house with us 8) . Cool Megs.


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Darn it! I meant The Essential Leonard Cohen, but there is no Edit button. Where'd it go?
I have to keep logging in, as well. GRR! :evil:

The edit button is back - AFTER I logged in three times to fix it! :evil: :evil: :evil:
Only just found this video of LC:
http://ca.youtube.com/user/leonardcohen?ob=4" target="_blank

This one does make me cry.
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Post by Young dick c. »

lizzytysh wrote:
. . . perhaps comparing male & female vocalists is apples vs oranges (or "wmds" vs "regime change" as the case may be) and preference is in the ear of the beholder . . . Yup, Natural Born Killers had a significant impact upon my future listening sessions & the title gave me ideas for future foreign policy.

These lines were very humourous for me :lol: ... in a perverse sort of way, of course.


~ Lizzy
gloppppp....
Well, of course down here in bunker land we wouldn't want it any other way than perverse.

It is interesting, when discussing voice, different listeners perceptions. I recall when wolfy & rummy & I were enjoying Natural Born Killers on one of the gop bigscreens (all the while contemplating "the future," haha) how mesmerized I was by LC's voice. Not too terribly long ago, on a critical writing site I participated on, a discussion arose about voice. A particular individual claiming to have perfect pitch (who lives in Canada, otherwise she would be under fbi investigation) stated that she could not stomach LC's voice. I'm like holy-cow, because I always found LC's voice as smooth & rich as those 500$ of Scotch whiskey junior likes to keep in the castle on the tax-payers dime. But this afore mentioned individual went on to tell me I was not only wrong about LC, but nearly all of my other favorite vocalists. Springsteen & Lucinda Williams were a couple of other ones, "if you like them that's one thing, but don't tell me that they have GOOD voices." An interesting comment, imo, because not only do I like those two for their lyric writing ability, but I also feel that their lyrics are strongest when expressed by those particular artists, as I also feel about LC's lyrics. I love Henley's cover of Everybody Knows, however I still feel that song loses impact during the interprative process. "Contrived," was the word this individual used to describe the voices of Lu & Bruce, & I forgot what unflattering term she described Leonard Cohen's voice. I make no claims at perfect pitch (I have picked up a good ear for detecting how my pace-maker is running) but I thought her description was unfair & inaccurate. However, as I stated above, beauty may at times be in the ear of the beholder.

I won't stray too far from Leonard Cohen's music in this forum, as this is not "everything else," & I have a healthy respect for the basic purpose of this board, but I will throw out a plug for The Cowboy Junkies if anyone is not familiar &/or interested. My opinion was that the best part of natural Born Killers was the soundtrack, & in particular, Leonard Cohen's two contributions which contrasted beautifully (goose-bump level, actually) with the ethereal cover of "Sweet Jane" by The Cowboy Junkies (also of Canada), vocals exclusively by Margo Timmins. (Again, just my opinion, I think the Michael Timmins & the CJs true excellence was in interpretation of the work of others, notably their first two cds. It is noteable that Lou Reed remarked that he liked the CJs cover of "Sweet Jane" better than his own original presentation.)

I'll leave this topic alone, for now, except to say that I love male/female vocalists harmonizing. One of my favorite examples (killer lyrics combined with performance) of this is "Joan of Arc," but maybe someone can help me out here? I always assumed that the female voice was that of Perla Batalla, but perhaps I'm incorrect? Regardless, I can't help but ponder what a killer duet it would be if Leonard Cohen & Margo Timmins were to record a song together.

Oh well....
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Post by ellenjoan »

One night in 1967, when I was 12, I stayed overnight in my cousin's room. For some reason, she left Judy Collin's Wildflowers album on her record player for me to listen to as I was falling asleep. I still don't really know why, I don't even think my cousin liked me much. "Sisters of Mercy", "That's No Way to Say Goodbye" and "Priests" were all new to me, but they were the three songs that struck me most. After that I bought every Leonard Cohen album as it came out. For almost 40 years now. Although at times I drifted away, and at times stopped listening to music altogher, I always come back. So, I think I owe my cousin a belated "Thanks, Nancy".

When my daughter was young she hated my Leonard Cohen music. She complained about it many times - depressing, monotone, boring, etc, etc. But time changes tastes. Two years ago (at age 19), she quoted some lines from "So long, Marianne" to me, to my great amazement. She is now a fan. Of course, by that time she was living in Montreal, so maybe she couldn't avoid it any longer. But I like to think it was the subconscious influence of all the music she heard while growing up.
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Post by Fljotsdale »

ROFL! @ ellenjoan!

I tried playing classical music to my kids but it never rubbed off on 'em. Well done, you! :D
Only just found this video of LC:
http://ca.youtube.com/user/leonardcohen?ob=4" target="_blank

This one does make me cry.
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Post by mike »

I was watching on demand cable and there's a clip of Mr. Cohen performing "democracy". I'm not very computer literate, but I googled and got to this site. I wanted to let somebody know I think this is one of the most relevent songs I have ever heard, most now in these dark days.
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how did you get into Leonard?

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A long time ago, when I was in high school, I used to do yoga in the
living room at night before I went to bed. The rest of the family was
asleep and it was quiet except for the radio progam I had on.
It was called "Spiritus Cheese" and they played the most progressive
music at that time.
One night I heard Suzanne and I was practically glued to the speaker -
it was more psycadellic than anything else. For some reason I didn't
get into him then. I did years later while I was going through a divorce -
I remembered his soothing voice. I bought one cd after another until
I became curious enough to find leonardcohenfiles.com.

And my life was changed forever.

evelyn
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Post by Paul K. »

In 1968, when I was living in NYC, I couldn't fall asleep one night. I turned on the radio to listen to WBAI-listener sponsored radio-and heard Leonard's first album being played. I forced myself not to fall asleep in order to hear the album in its entirety. I was mesmorized by his voice and melodies.
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Post by Liisa »

My parents grew up in the 60's and were both strongly influenced by the music, so when I was born (1973) I was gently brainwashed to good music, The Beatles, Dylan, Hendrix...and Leonard Cohen. I've also always loved his poetry and am very proud to tell that my dear friend Helena has translated his two books into finnish language.

This is my first post in here, by the way...I registered a while ago and been lurking around every now and then, and decided it was about time to say hello!

Liisa
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Post by Philwilli »

Ohh Liisa, what a lovely brainwash you got when you were a youngster!
Just think of them who was born later,they were brainwashed with "PUNK"

In Norway around 1970 we only had one-1 radio channel called NRK.
It was listning to them i got to hear Leonard and i think the first song i
heard with him was "Suzanne"He got through to us that was a bit "hippie"
even so we mainly listen to the Beatles,the Stones,Uriah Heep,Deep Purple,Emerson Lake & Palmer and others more "rocky" than LC.
"Suzanne"was nice to play to calm down the girls at the party that we had
after the dance.O God,what a time it was.
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