come on leonard

liverpoolken · Post by **liverpoolken** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:48 am

65 year Bob Dylan has just reached the top of the U.S albums chart for the first time in 30 years, becoming the oldest living person to launch a new album that went straight to the number 1 spot.

Internationally, Modern Times also opened at No.1 in Australia, Canada, Denmark, Ireland, New Zealand, Norway and Switzerland, although it only reached the No. 3 spot here in the UK despite me buying 10 copies.

Johnny Cash and Ray Charles both had No. 1 albums in recent years, but they were released posthumously.

So come on Leonard you are 7 years older than Mr. Bob and I know you have an album for us in the pipeline.

Records are like pie crusts they are made to be broken.
With apologies to to Johathan Swift

Ta Ken

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:21 am

Oh-Oh... the pressure's on

.

That's okay, Leonard... just sing your heart and all will be well

.

. . . although it only reached the No. 3 spot here in the UK despite me buying 10 copies.

Awww, Ken, you shouldn't have

. [I know... I won't be checking the mailbox, but still couldn't resist

.]

Meanwhile, congratulations, Bob... that's great

. Now, what was it people were saying about mumbling?

~ Lizzy

Henning · Post by **Henning** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:48 am

Internationally, Modern Times also opened at No.1 in Australia, Canada, Denmark, Ireland, New Zealand, Norway and Switzerland, although it only reached the No. 3 spot here in the UK despite me buying 10 copies.

No. 52 here in Germany, second week No. 57

liverpoolken · Post by **liverpoolken** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:42 pm

Henning

You little rascal.

Modern Times entered the German album chart at #2, Iron Maiden are still hanging on at the number one spot - but not for long.

For a nation of heavy metal headbangers Bob's German chart position is doubly rewarding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBfTBagpAUY

Bob ist König.

Ta ken

Fljotsdale · Post by **Fljotsdale** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:20 pm

Cohen has an exclusive audience.

He doesn't need the world to love him.

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:21 pm

I agree, Fljotsdale. The more, the better ~ but still not necessary. Rankings welcomed, but not required.

On NPR last night, I heard a snippet of a cover of Leonard's "Hallelujah" [couldn't hear it well enough to identify it ~ my radio was turned low, and it came and went so fast, with me on my computer, helping a friend who was sitting there talking; and I couldn't speak quickly enough to stop her and still identify who it was] as the audio portion of a blurb on an upcoming segment [Monday night at 10 PM EST] on the psychological fallout ["spiritual aftershocks"] of September 11th. Not to say that others' won't; however, Leonard's music will for sure always find itself being used in important ways.

~ Lizzy

liverpoolken · Post by **liverpoolken** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:10 pm

Fljotsdale

I can only but guess that in the light of Leonard's current financial situation neither Leonard nor his bank manager would totally agree with your rather high minded view.

I personally hope that Leonard's next cd tops every chart there is thereby making uncountable millions of dollars so that he can sit back, relax, and enjoy the rest of his life.

Ta Ken

Fljotsdale · Post by **Fljotsdale** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:48 am

LOL!

Oh well, if we're talking filthy lucre... !

I guess it would do him some good!

Cohendrix · Post by **Cohendrix** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:17 am

Dylan went #1 because we old people (Dylan's core audience) are the ones who still pay for music and buy CDs.

The world of free, illegal downloading among the young'uns has made Dylan's big news "#1" a dubious one.

Fewer than 200, 000 units in a first week wouldn't have been news back in the day.

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:02 pm

Hi Cohendrix ~

Your comment seems to echo my own thought earlier [though not expressed] that how 'well' Leonard's upcoming album officially does will rely as much on Leonard's fans as it does on Leonard's album, as their willingness to actual purchase the cd will be what's reflected in the 'ratings.'

~ Lizzy

liverpoolken · Post by **liverpoolken** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:09 pm

Cohendrix wrote:Dylan went #1 because we old people (Dylan's core audience) are the ones who still pay for music and buy CDs.

Following the logic of your argument that would mean that all albums
in the charts would be down to ‘old people’, which of course is clearly preposterous.

A big factor in Bob’s chart success with Modern Times is that he has placed himself in the media whirl. He's written an autobiography. He's hosted a phenomenally successful radio show. He's allowed Martin Scorsese to film an epic, three-and-a-half-hour documentary about him.
This has given the fans what they want: Dylan. But it has also reminded some of them, the ones who didn't buy the previous non-No 1 album, that he's still around.

Ta Ken

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:17 pm

But it has also reminded some of them, the ones who didn't buy the previous non-No 1 album, that he's still around.

... and that it's time to buy this one.

Cohendrix · Post by **Cohendrix** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:23 am

"Following the logic of your argument that would mean that all albums
in the charts would be down to ‘old people’, which of course is clearly preposterous."

Please don't turn my statement into a strawman. Instead, address my statement.

Dylan's #1 has certainly been helped along by the fact that older people are his main fan base.

Do you have much contact with people in their late teens and early 20s these days? I do have such contact on a regular basis. Yes, young people do buy some CDs (generally of something they have already downloaded)--but many download a lot more music for free than they pay for.

No doubt, some old people are on the free music gravy train, too, but older people are still tied to the material object of the disc more than young people are.

The truth is coming from both of us, I think. Dylan has increased his profile, as you point out, but his #1 is not purely the result of his own efforts or those of Sony music.

The #1 is a reflection of a demographic purchasing reality, too, and if you don't think so, you aren't up on current buying trends in popular music. Even Dylan must know this--he's a bit kooky but not an idiot.

tomsakic · Post by **tomsakic** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:47 am

And there's something about turning to the wisdom of old, wise man... Many young people are buying late albums by Cohen (The Future, Ten New Songs, Dear Heather), Dylan (Time Out Of Mind and on), and Cash (American Recordings I-V). It's now the syndrom. Those people have credibility, they're cool in last decade among people in 20s and early 30s. Something's going on. That's also one layer to the success of Modern Times. New music is so boring and repeating itself, and Pitchfork has become increasingly repetitive, with praising new band every month as "totally new and revolutionary" (like enormously boring Arctic Monkeys), that new Dylan album is like the healing of the open wound. One of those people who's welcomed even with the lesser work, because it's better than someone's best work. [I am not saying that Moder Times is his lesser work, quite contrary!]

Red Poppy · Post by **Red Poppy** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:12 pm

The Dylan album is crap - like a lot of his work in the last 20 years. And he does mumble and his concerts are hit and miss when it comes to quality, commitment and plain old audio. And some amount of crap has reached number one in all charts so that means little or nothing.
Bring back Lieutenant Pigeon and Mouldy Old Dough!

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