Cate: Actually we just had an incident in Toronto - a Mother was asked to leave the pool to feed her baby, the shit hit the fan so to speak, it was on the news a big commotion.
People staring at you - I never found that, both of my kids were breast fed until 15 months it was very rare for somebody to respond negatively. It could be different depending on where you live, it's certainly not uncommon to see a Mom nursing - mind you I don't think it's uncommon in the states either. There are a lot of people who choose to bottle feed and that's there choice.
I see women breast feeding all the time here in New Jersey. I've never seen anyone complain - but - I'm sure it happens all the time... some people are not happy unless they are complaining about something.
Cate: Nope - I don't think so - We have a public decency law like you but it does not address gender difference - You see in the States you have 2 sets of rules - in way we do to as I said before if you visit you won't see chicks walking around without shirts, we don't but it's our choice if we wanted to we could in the same places a man could at least - not the mall - they have a sign on the door. If the guests wanted to shoot heroin they'd have to leave and go to a clinic and not shooting heroin is not legal here - do you guys have meth clinics?
and Why would someone be stupid enough to punch a police officer? Are you suggesting that we are stupid people John
Well, there are stupid people everywhere Cate.. if we are being honest. : )
It would be my guess that woman don't take their shirts off because there would be a few thousand gawking, horny teenagers looking on - traffic accidents - verbal assaults... and so on. It makes sense that you 'should' be able to do it BUT 'doing it' doesn't make much sense if there is a law or not.
I only said that stuff (Including hitting the officer) to show that you can not do anything you please where you are anymore than I could do anything I please where I am. Some of your laws may seem more enlightened to ones we have here - but.. there are still limitations on all of us. And some of those limitations are the best for society.. some are not.
Anyways... gotta go. I gotta get out of here for a concert tonight. But.. I'll be back .... later gater! Oh.. and I believe our drug laws here are stupid - I've been to Amsterdam 9 times and hope this is the future.
Second Coming
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"There is a crack, a crack in everything... that's how the light gets in" - Leonard Cohen
"There is a crack, a crack in everything... that's how the light gets in" - Leonard Cohen
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Re: Second Coming
Cate: In fairness there are things that you guys can do that we can't - buying health care services for example. I don't think that one country is better or freer then the other - just slightly different.
I gotta head out John
Have a good weekend!
Cate
Dur.. that's what I was saying : )
Bye bye...
I gotta head out John
Have a good weekend!
Cate
Dur.. that's what I was saying : )
Bye bye...
johnlakeart.com
"There is a crack, a crack in everything... that's how the light gets in" - Leonard Cohen
"There is a crack, a crack in everything... that's how the light gets in" - Leonard Cohen
Re: Second Coming
The poem below is based upon real experiences I am currently going through. Below the poem is an article and link from a private investigator that investigated these groups for years... (I have experienced everything in BOLD in the article)
Their tactics are lame - easily spotted and annoying - they want you to react .... all listed in article.
They choose a target for 'Destruction' because they don't want them in society. For any reason they choose... I am the lucky chosen... I am a good person and no clue why they want to destroy me. They read all e-mail's sent (I can explain later -- lots of details)- so - I have reached out to them for some explanation - ( I only hear silence). I challenged whoever their leader is and returned the favor - I called for his/ her destruction. I challenged the so-called leader to a debate ... I knew he would never accept such a challenge... their way is to destroy a person through severe cruelty and torture. He would not even be a challenge in a game of wits. I am getting stronger in my reasoning and they will not be able to defeat me in the conventional way... they will either have to stop what they are doing or stop me. I want as many people to know about this in case anything happens to me - I don't think they are used to defeat - and - have no idea how they will react.
Just to be clear... this is ALL OVER the USA. There are several police investigations going on locally BUT with something so big... chances of stopping them completly will be small. READ UP!
I know... it all sounds crazy and paranoid and that's what they want. See what I sent below... You can look up (gang stalking) ... name is misleading because it's not the typical 'gang'.. just huge groups of people. There are hundreds of links out there.
The very scary part is they are all throughout society - in all walks of life - ALL over the U.S.A... a secrete society. Before judging my words please do research.
Cate... if you are out there... the USA is not what I thought it was... there is an imbedded Evil that I never thought possible. I tried to reach out - hoping some were deceived - BUT - I fear the majority may believe they are in the right. So.. even though I remain strong.. I feel like I am in a sci/fi horror movie.
Has any one ever heard of this before ? My main goal now is to try and change their way of thinking (if Possible). And to spread the information out there... the more people know... the more exposed they become.
"The Watchers"
I am the lucky chosen...
By the self righteous one's...
I have been Chosen for destruction...
To be removed from the life I love...
I reach out and beg...
Please tell me what I have done?...
I hear silence and distant laughing...
And a word whispered from above...
The Father says "You have done nothing wrong"...
"Evil is trying to take away"...
"I will stay by your side:...
"Until the Evil goes away"...
The watchers watch closely..
As I drive away...
they follow as I go...
so I begin to pray...
They sit behind me..
and whisper in my ear..
only gibberish for me to hear..
harassment is their joy..
They surround me at concerts...
trying to provoke..
But the holy spirit...
Brightens my hope...
They spread lies...
hate and deceit...
they hide among us...
But their mark is now known..
Their secrete is out...
the hand signals seen...
Now I Watch them...
and pray for their quick defeat....
They laugh as I fight...
and taunt and challenge..
Believing me no threat...
That is their biggest mistake..
- John Lake
http://www.raven1.net/lawson.htm#REALPOLAWARE
There are two distinct reasons why targets are harassed:
- The initial reason targets are placed on the stalking groups' "list"
- The reason the stalkers keep it up (always involves lies)
Those two reasons should always be kept separate in your mind, reader. David Lawson's focus is mainly on the reason the stalkers continue to harass targets.
David Lawson's chapter on Selection of Targets may well be true, but it certainly doesn't describe the thousands of people who don't fit his list of targeted categories. Here are some of the categories of targets Lawson records in "Cause Stalking":
- Abortion clinic workers
- People guilty of mistreatment of animals
- County clerks and local politicians
- Police officers
- Judges
- IRS and Treasury agents
- Civil rights activists
- Government or corporate whistleblowers
One thing David Lawson makes clear in describing the targets is that "The ultimate goal of the groups is to destroy the targets." Those who have been stalked by organized citizen groups which are fed lies report that these groups do destroy targets with great efficiency.
Next, let's look at some of the typical OPERATIONS these groups carry out. Here, I have retained a number of quotes from the original book because I feel they state the situation as well or better than the new book:
The first step, after a target has been selected, is to establish a personality profile "... which will involve an assessment of IQ, personality type, and history."
"A target may also notice being photographed."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "The primary characteristic of cause stalking is that it is done by large groups of people. A target will always be followed, but he is unlikely to see the same stalkers very often." ...
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "Many of these groups include hundreds of people."
"Some authors refer to cause stalking as terrorist stalking. Groups do not just stalk individuals. They employ organized programs of harassment which include break-ins, property damage, assault and occasionally, even death. The children of a target are a favorite."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "Firemen across the country, and even some police departments have a long history of supporting extremist groups. Fire trucks can sometimes be seen riding in extremist convoys, with their flashing lights turned on and their sirens screaming. They will also race to greet a convoy which is entering their town. The participation of firemen, city workers and utility company workers helps give group members an illusion of legitimacy and power."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "City employees can be used to harass a target in many ways including tearing up the road in front of a target's home. Employees of pest control businesses who have access to the keys for apartments and those who work for alarm and locksmith companies are also of interest."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "Groups also attack targets of convenience. These people are selected because they are convenient targets, and not for any other reason. These include loners who tend to be more vulnerable to their harassment tactics than those with family and friends around them. Targets of convenience are used for practice."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "In order to establish bases of operation, they will enlist the assistance of neighbors. In many areas, they can do this by intimidation. Those who do not co-operate can be targetted, which includes harassment of their families and damage to their homes and vehicles. "If they are dealing with individuals who do not know them, they can also appeal to their sense of patriotism and they can offer drugs, friendship, home repair, free taxi rides and what ever else they have to. In some cases they may even be able to get a key to the residence from a 'patriotic' landlord."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "Surveillance is conducted 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. When a target leaves his residence they will alert the group, either by cell phone or by business band radio. Other members, who are patrolling the perimeter to watch for police and other vehicles driving in the area, will race to the location to begin pursuit. In small towns, where business band radio is widely used, these activities are a local sport among a small group. Anyone with a scanner can join in. Some targets have reported hearing an announcement on their scanners as soon as they turn their lights on in the morning."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "In a typical apartment setting, they will attempt to lease, sublet, or otherwise have access to apartments above, below, and on both sides of the target. They will also "guard" the vehicles of a target in the parking lot."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] If [the target] flushes a toilet, he may hear a car horn honk, the sound of a power tool or hammering, for example. There will also be a large number of people coming and going, and accompanying rowdiness and noise."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "A common ruse used by these groups is that they are a 'citizens group' which assists the police and they are 'just keeping track of' a certain individual, for whatever reason. The illusion is reinforced by the case files they carry which are complete with photos of the target and look like those used by police."
"During a search [of the target's home or apartment] members who are on patrol anyway establish a perimeter around the residence to watch for police vehicles. In an apartment setting, entry will likely be gained through a member of the janitorial staff, pest control or alarm technician, since they have a right to enter. They may even be able to approach a landlord and gain his co-operation, after convincing him of their 'higher purpose'. He may also co-operate out of fear."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "Others do not recognize that they are being harassed by an organized group. They just think that there are a lot of rude people in the world."
"Interception of mail is standard practice." ... "Typically, targets notice that their mail is arriving late or they do not receive certain pieces of mail. They [targets] may overhear people at a nearby table in a restaurant talking about certain mail, and realize it is theirs, or someone may drive by [the target] waving their mail at them."
"Interception of phone calls is also standard practice. This is done by telephone company employees who support the [stalking] group for ideological reasons or because they obtain some benefit." Eleanor White comment: I'd add to that one of the most likely reasons, because the phone technicians are told lies about targets.
"An objective is to isolate the target from his family and friends. He can tell them about all the strange things happening around him, but they will not understand and perhaps will think he is crazy. Sometimes other members of the family will receive the same treatment."
"When a target is driving, standard practice is to surround his vehicle and attempt to control his speed. He will not be followed in close proximity by the same vehicles for a long distance. They do frequent trade-offs. Vehicles line up behind the target to take their turn."
"In many parts of the country it is common to see groups of six to 30 or more vehicles driving around in convoys with their high beams on during the day. This is one of the ways a convoy can be identified."
"Standard practice is to watch the target's vehicles and this subjects them to damage including slashed tires, scratched paint, stolen license plates, etc. Typically they would not cut the brake lines on vehicles or commit other similar acts of sabotage, but they would drain the oil or antifreeze over a period of time."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "A target will be followed on foot wherever he goes. Anyone can go to the same public places he goes, and they will attempt to get into any other restricted places he goes, including hospitals, places of employment, etc. It has been said that it is possible to go nearly anywhere if you have a clipboard in your hand and it is almost true. They also like to wear name badges on a lanyard, and some carry phony police badges."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "Common harassment tactics used by those on foot include pen clicking, in which they repeatedly click a ball point pen, key rattling, and rattling change in their pockets while standing behind the target. Many tactics are tried and the result is observed. Those which evoke a response from the target are repeated. When a target sits anywhere in public, group members will attempt to sit behind him in order to create noise, by whatever means, including tapping their feet on the target's chair. The objective is to harass the target constantly."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "Groups attempt to interfere with any business and personal relationships which the target has. Typically, this interference involves character assassination from some anonymous individual and is not usually taken seriously by those who know the target. It can be effective with people who don't know the target."
"At work, the target will also experience character assassination. If he works in any position where he has to deal with the public, there will be a steady stream of customers who complain about him. If he is a real estate agent, he will have a steady stream of prospects who occupy his time but never make an offer."
Let me, Eleanor White, give you an example of how brutal and serious this "character assassination" can be.
One of our members, who prefers to remain anonymous, moved in with her husband and children to a house which, unkown to them, had been a methamphetamine lab. The chemicals used to brew meth apparently cause distinctive symptoms in the mouth. This family's dentist felt he was "helping law enforcement" by reporting them to local law enforcement as meth users. This was absolutely untrue, but the family didn't even know the report had been made and had no way to correct it. (In fact, in some places, dentists are REQUIRED to report suspected cases of meth use.)
Law enforcement in that area was apparently tied in to the citizen groups, and the family was harassed for many years. The husband died, apparently from exposure to these chemicals.
The lady, now a grandmother, steadfastly did detective work and eventually found out about her family's reputation, with some help from a policeman who was a personal friend, from a different jurisdiction. This policeman admitted off the record that "meth mouth" can result in people being submitted to citizen harassment groups for harassment.
Character assassination is complete, and has life-destroying consequences!
"A common tactic use by groups is noise campaigns. Group members will drive by the target's residence or work place, honking their horns, squealing tires, and making whatever other noise they can."
"They will also make noise from whatever nearby properties they have access to. Typically, they will make noise when the target goes outside. Group members will also frequently knock on his door for whatever peculiar reasons they can dream up."
"In an apartment setting, targets can expect to hear tapping on the walls in the middle of the night, hammering etc. from the upper and/or lower apartments, and possibly the apartments on both sides. They will continue to 'work' on these activities for as long as they can get away with them."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "... It is not uncommon, in an apartment setting, for a target to hear someone moving from room to room as he does, from the upper or lower apartment. [Eleanor White talking: This requires commercial through wall radar or more advanced technology in many cases.]
"Often they occupy a nearby apartment, part time, when the owner is not there and he receives some benefit. A target may notice someone leaving a nearby apartment when he leaves his, and arrive when he arrives. In addition, he will often be accompanied in elevators by a steady stream of different individuals who go to the apartments being used by the group."
What about the future, then? Let me close this review with a chilling quote from David Lawson's first book, Terrorist Stalking in America, reporting what the author learned from some of the leaders:
"The leaders ... are starting to balk at exposing their members to arrest for activities which amount to little gain for the movement. they say that anyone who is a target should be killed, and not just harassed for years."
Eleanor White
Their tactics are lame - easily spotted and annoying - they want you to react .... all listed in article.
They choose a target for 'Destruction' because they don't want them in society. For any reason they choose... I am the lucky chosen... I am a good person and no clue why they want to destroy me. They read all e-mail's sent (I can explain later -- lots of details)- so - I have reached out to them for some explanation - ( I only hear silence). I challenged whoever their leader is and returned the favor - I called for his/ her destruction. I challenged the so-called leader to a debate ... I knew he would never accept such a challenge... their way is to destroy a person through severe cruelty and torture. He would not even be a challenge in a game of wits. I am getting stronger in my reasoning and they will not be able to defeat me in the conventional way... they will either have to stop what they are doing or stop me. I want as many people to know about this in case anything happens to me - I don't think they are used to defeat - and - have no idea how they will react.
Just to be clear... this is ALL OVER the USA. There are several police investigations going on locally BUT with something so big... chances of stopping them completly will be small. READ UP!
I know... it all sounds crazy and paranoid and that's what they want. See what I sent below... You can look up (gang stalking) ... name is misleading because it's not the typical 'gang'.. just huge groups of people. There are hundreds of links out there.
The very scary part is they are all throughout society - in all walks of life - ALL over the U.S.A... a secrete society. Before judging my words please do research.
Cate... if you are out there... the USA is not what I thought it was... there is an imbedded Evil that I never thought possible. I tried to reach out - hoping some were deceived - BUT - I fear the majority may believe they are in the right. So.. even though I remain strong.. I feel like I am in a sci/fi horror movie.
Has any one ever heard of this before ? My main goal now is to try and change their way of thinking (if Possible). And to spread the information out there... the more people know... the more exposed they become.
"The Watchers"
I am the lucky chosen...
By the self righteous one's...
I have been Chosen for destruction...
To be removed from the life I love...
I reach out and beg...
Please tell me what I have done?...
I hear silence and distant laughing...
And a word whispered from above...
The Father says "You have done nothing wrong"...
"Evil is trying to take away"...
"I will stay by your side:...
"Until the Evil goes away"...
The watchers watch closely..
As I drive away...
they follow as I go...
so I begin to pray...
They sit behind me..
and whisper in my ear..
only gibberish for me to hear..
harassment is their joy..
They surround me at concerts...
trying to provoke..
But the holy spirit...
Brightens my hope...
They spread lies...
hate and deceit...
they hide among us...
But their mark is now known..
Their secrete is out...
the hand signals seen...
Now I Watch them...
and pray for their quick defeat....
They laugh as I fight...
and taunt and challenge..
Believing me no threat...
That is their biggest mistake..
- John Lake
http://www.raven1.net/lawson.htm#REALPOLAWARE
There are two distinct reasons why targets are harassed:
- The initial reason targets are placed on the stalking groups' "list"
- The reason the stalkers keep it up (always involves lies)
Those two reasons should always be kept separate in your mind, reader. David Lawson's focus is mainly on the reason the stalkers continue to harass targets.
David Lawson's chapter on Selection of Targets may well be true, but it certainly doesn't describe the thousands of people who don't fit his list of targeted categories. Here are some of the categories of targets Lawson records in "Cause Stalking":
- Abortion clinic workers
- People guilty of mistreatment of animals
- County clerks and local politicians
- Police officers
- Judges
- IRS and Treasury agents
- Civil rights activists
- Government or corporate whistleblowers
One thing David Lawson makes clear in describing the targets is that "The ultimate goal of the groups is to destroy the targets." Those who have been stalked by organized citizen groups which are fed lies report that these groups do destroy targets with great efficiency.
Next, let's look at some of the typical OPERATIONS these groups carry out. Here, I have retained a number of quotes from the original book because I feel they state the situation as well or better than the new book:
The first step, after a target has been selected, is to establish a personality profile "... which will involve an assessment of IQ, personality type, and history."
"A target may also notice being photographed."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "The primary characteristic of cause stalking is that it is done by large groups of people. A target will always be followed, but he is unlikely to see the same stalkers very often." ...
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "Many of these groups include hundreds of people."
"Some authors refer to cause stalking as terrorist stalking. Groups do not just stalk individuals. They employ organized programs of harassment which include break-ins, property damage, assault and occasionally, even death. The children of a target are a favorite."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "Firemen across the country, and even some police departments have a long history of supporting extremist groups. Fire trucks can sometimes be seen riding in extremist convoys, with their flashing lights turned on and their sirens screaming. They will also race to greet a convoy which is entering their town. The participation of firemen, city workers and utility company workers helps give group members an illusion of legitimacy and power."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "City employees can be used to harass a target in many ways including tearing up the road in front of a target's home. Employees of pest control businesses who have access to the keys for apartments and those who work for alarm and locksmith companies are also of interest."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "Groups also attack targets of convenience. These people are selected because they are convenient targets, and not for any other reason. These include loners who tend to be more vulnerable to their harassment tactics than those with family and friends around them. Targets of convenience are used for practice."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "In order to establish bases of operation, they will enlist the assistance of neighbors. In many areas, they can do this by intimidation. Those who do not co-operate can be targetted, which includes harassment of their families and damage to their homes and vehicles. "If they are dealing with individuals who do not know them, they can also appeal to their sense of patriotism and they can offer drugs, friendship, home repair, free taxi rides and what ever else they have to. In some cases they may even be able to get a key to the residence from a 'patriotic' landlord."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "Surveillance is conducted 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. When a target leaves his residence they will alert the group, either by cell phone or by business band radio. Other members, who are patrolling the perimeter to watch for police and other vehicles driving in the area, will race to the location to begin pursuit. In small towns, where business band radio is widely used, these activities are a local sport among a small group. Anyone with a scanner can join in. Some targets have reported hearing an announcement on their scanners as soon as they turn their lights on in the morning."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "In a typical apartment setting, they will attempt to lease, sublet, or otherwise have access to apartments above, below, and on both sides of the target. They will also "guard" the vehicles of a target in the parking lot."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] If [the target] flushes a toilet, he may hear a car horn honk, the sound of a power tool or hammering, for example. There will also be a large number of people coming and going, and accompanying rowdiness and noise."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "A common ruse used by these groups is that they are a 'citizens group' which assists the police and they are 'just keeping track of' a certain individual, for whatever reason. The illusion is reinforced by the case files they carry which are complete with photos of the target and look like those used by police."
"During a search [of the target's home or apartment] members who are on patrol anyway establish a perimeter around the residence to watch for police vehicles. In an apartment setting, entry will likely be gained through a member of the janitorial staff, pest control or alarm technician, since they have a right to enter. They may even be able to approach a landlord and gain his co-operation, after convincing him of their 'higher purpose'. He may also co-operate out of fear."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "Others do not recognize that they are being harassed by an organized group. They just think that there are a lot of rude people in the world."
"Interception of mail is standard practice." ... "Typically, targets notice that their mail is arriving late or they do not receive certain pieces of mail. They [targets] may overhear people at a nearby table in a restaurant talking about certain mail, and realize it is theirs, or someone may drive by [the target] waving their mail at them."
"Interception of phone calls is also standard practice. This is done by telephone company employees who support the [stalking] group for ideological reasons or because they obtain some benefit." Eleanor White comment: I'd add to that one of the most likely reasons, because the phone technicians are told lies about targets.
"An objective is to isolate the target from his family and friends. He can tell them about all the strange things happening around him, but they will not understand and perhaps will think he is crazy. Sometimes other members of the family will receive the same treatment."
"When a target is driving, standard practice is to surround his vehicle and attempt to control his speed. He will not be followed in close proximity by the same vehicles for a long distance. They do frequent trade-offs. Vehicles line up behind the target to take their turn."
"In many parts of the country it is common to see groups of six to 30 or more vehicles driving around in convoys with their high beams on during the day. This is one of the ways a convoy can be identified."
"Standard practice is to watch the target's vehicles and this subjects them to damage including slashed tires, scratched paint, stolen license plates, etc. Typically they would not cut the brake lines on vehicles or commit other similar acts of sabotage, but they would drain the oil or antifreeze over a period of time."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "A target will be followed on foot wherever he goes. Anyone can go to the same public places he goes, and they will attempt to get into any other restricted places he goes, including hospitals, places of employment, etc. It has been said that it is possible to go nearly anywhere if you have a clipboard in your hand and it is almost true. They also like to wear name badges on a lanyard, and some carry phony police badges."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "Common harassment tactics used by those on foot include pen clicking, in which they repeatedly click a ball point pen, key rattling, and rattling change in their pockets while standing behind the target. Many tactics are tried and the result is observed. Those which evoke a response from the target are repeated. When a target sits anywhere in public, group members will attempt to sit behind him in order to create noise, by whatever means, including tapping their feet on the target's chair. The objective is to harass the target constantly."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "Groups attempt to interfere with any business and personal relationships which the target has. Typically, this interference involves character assassination from some anonymous individual and is not usually taken seriously by those who know the target. It can be effective with people who don't know the target."
"At work, the target will also experience character assassination. If he works in any position where he has to deal with the public, there will be a steady stream of customers who complain about him. If he is a real estate agent, he will have a steady stream of prospects who occupy his time but never make an offer."
Let me, Eleanor White, give you an example of how brutal and serious this "character assassination" can be.
One of our members, who prefers to remain anonymous, moved in with her husband and children to a house which, unkown to them, had been a methamphetamine lab. The chemicals used to brew meth apparently cause distinctive symptoms in the mouth. This family's dentist felt he was "helping law enforcement" by reporting them to local law enforcement as meth users. This was absolutely untrue, but the family didn't even know the report had been made and had no way to correct it. (In fact, in some places, dentists are REQUIRED to report suspected cases of meth use.)
Law enforcement in that area was apparently tied in to the citizen groups, and the family was harassed for many years. The husband died, apparently from exposure to these chemicals.
The lady, now a grandmother, steadfastly did detective work and eventually found out about her family's reputation, with some help from a policeman who was a personal friend, from a different jurisdiction. This policeman admitted off the record that "meth mouth" can result in people being submitted to citizen harassment groups for harassment.
Character assassination is complete, and has life-destroying consequences!
"A common tactic use by groups is noise campaigns. Group members will drive by the target's residence or work place, honking their horns, squealing tires, and making whatever other noise they can."
"They will also make noise from whatever nearby properties they have access to. Typically, they will make noise when the target goes outside. Group members will also frequently knock on his door for whatever peculiar reasons they can dream up."
"In an apartment setting, targets can expect to hear tapping on the walls in the middle of the night, hammering etc. from the upper and/or lower apartments, and possibly the apartments on both sides. They will continue to 'work' on these activities for as long as they can get away with them."
[From Terrorist Stalking in America] "... It is not uncommon, in an apartment setting, for a target to hear someone moving from room to room as he does, from the upper or lower apartment. [Eleanor White talking: This requires commercial through wall radar or more advanced technology in many cases.]
"Often they occupy a nearby apartment, part time, when the owner is not there and he receives some benefit. A target may notice someone leaving a nearby apartment when he leaves his, and arrive when he arrives. In addition, he will often be accompanied in elevators by a steady stream of different individuals who go to the apartments being used by the group."
What about the future, then? Let me close this review with a chilling quote from David Lawson's first book, Terrorist Stalking in America, reporting what the author learned from some of the leaders:
"The leaders ... are starting to balk at exposing their members to arrest for activities which amount to little gain for the movement. they say that anyone who is a target should be killed, and not just harassed for years."
Eleanor White
Re: Second Coming
you've lost your M?
"The Watchers"
I am the lucky chosen...
By the self righteous one's...
I have been Chosen for destruction...
To be removed from the life I love...
I reach out and beg...
Please tell me what I have done?...
I hear silence and distant laughing...
And a word whispered from above...
The Father says "You have done nothing wrong"...
"Evil is trying to take away"...
"I will stay by your side:...
"Until the Evil goes away"...
The watchers watch closely..
As I drive away...
they follow as I go...
so I begin to pray...
They sit behind me..
and whisper in my ear..
only gibberish for me to hear..
harassment is their joy..
They surround me at concerts...
trying to provoke..
But the holy spirit...
Brightens my hope...
They spread lies...
hate and deceit...
they hide among us...
But their mark is now known..
Their secrete is out...
the hand signals seen...
Now I Watch them...
and pray for their quick defeat....
They laugh as I fight...
and taunt and challenge..
Believing me no threat...
That is their biggest mistake..
- John Lake
Hi there John - I've not heard of this type of 'gang' behaviour before but it seems possible that such a thing could happen in todays interconnected internet world - a bit weird though, perhaps participants would see it as a game.
The idea of being watched, of being accused of something, but not being told what that something is reminded of Kafka's 'the Trial'.
it's nice to see you, my apologies for not responding sooner but I wanted to take the time to read your attached article first and watch the clip. To be honest the clip didn't seem very suspicious to me - that wasn't really a lot of traffic and as far as people talking to the bicyclist well that's just normal. people talk to each in a neighborhood, I probably would have talked to him too.
all good things to you John and I hope that the troubles you personally are experiencing come to an end,
Cate
"The Watchers"
I am the lucky chosen...
By the self righteous one's...
I have been Chosen for destruction...
To be removed from the life I love...
I reach out and beg...
Please tell me what I have done?...
I hear silence and distant laughing...
And a word whispered from above...
The Father says "You have done nothing wrong"...
"Evil is trying to take away"...
"I will stay by your side:...
"Until the Evil goes away"...
The watchers watch closely..
As I drive away...
they follow as I go...
so I begin to pray...
They sit behind me..
and whisper in my ear..
only gibberish for me to hear..
harassment is their joy..
They surround me at concerts...
trying to provoke..
But the holy spirit...
Brightens my hope...
They spread lies...
hate and deceit...
they hide among us...
But their mark is now known..
Their secrete is out...
the hand signals seen...
Now I Watch them...
and pray for their quick defeat....
They laugh as I fight...
and taunt and challenge..
Believing me no threat...
That is their biggest mistake..
- John Lake
Hi there John - I've not heard of this type of 'gang' behaviour before but it seems possible that such a thing could happen in todays interconnected internet world - a bit weird though, perhaps participants would see it as a game.
The idea of being watched, of being accused of something, but not being told what that something is reminded of Kafka's 'the Trial'.
it's nice to see you, my apologies for not responding sooner but I wanted to take the time to read your attached article first and watch the clip. To be honest the clip didn't seem very suspicious to me - that wasn't really a lot of traffic and as far as people talking to the bicyclist well that's just normal. people talk to each in a neighborhood, I probably would have talked to him too.
all good things to you John and I hope that the troubles you personally are experiencing come to an end,
Cate